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Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting failure rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can during this period. Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last cigarette, generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after two weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider the following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating from a disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical symptoms: a.. Tingling in the hands and feet b.. Sweating c.. Intestinal disorders (cramps, nausea) d.. Headache e.. Cold symptoms as the lungs begin to clear (sore throats, coughing, and other signs of colds and respiratory problem) Mental and Emotional Symptoms. Tension and craving build up during periods of withdrawal, sometimes to a nearly intolerable point. One European study found that the incidence of workplace accidents increases on No Smoking Day, a day in which up to 2 million smokers either reduce the amount they smoke or abstain altogether. Nearly every moderate to heavy smoker experiences more than one of the following strong emotional and mental responses to withdrawal. a.. Feelings of being an infant: temper tantrums, intense needs, feelings of dependency, a state of near paralysis. b.. Insomnia c.. Mental confusion d.. Vagueness e.. Irritability f.. Anxiety g.. Depression is common in the short and long term. In the short term it may mimic the feelings of grief felt when a loved one is lost. As foolish as it sounds, a smoker should plan on a period of actual mourning in order to get through the early withdrawal depression. Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: Anger & Mood Swings Boredom Constipation & Gas Feeling Closed In Cough, Dry Throat, Nasal Drip Cravings For Cigarettes Depression Dizziness and Invertigo Feeling tired all the time Frustration Headaches Increase in Appetite Insomnia Irritability, Grouchiness Lack Of Concentration Loneliness Night Time Awakenings Restlessness Tightness In The Chest Weight gain Anger and Mood Swings Anger is part of the quitting process. You don’t have to have a reason to feel that way, you just do. Accept it, vent it safely. Deal with the irritating situation by dealing with your feelings rather than suppressing them. Say what’s on your mind without blowing your stack. Anger openly expressed or kept inside creates tension which may create the need for a cigarette. Reducing the tension will reduce your desire for a cigarette. Discuss your anger with your buddy. Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Top Boredom Try new things. Keep your hands and mind busy (write a letter, do dishes, cook, paint, do carpentry, knit, garden, sew). Run some errands, get caught up on jobs you haven’t had time to do, or go see a movie. If you have to stay in one place, have a book/crossword puzzles/deck of cards handy. Top Constipation, gas, stomach pain Constipation is caused by intestinal movement decreases for a brief period. It will normally last for several weeks. Drink plenty of liquids (6-8 glasses of water daily); add roughage to diet (fruits, vegetables, whole grain cereals, bran); go for walks. Top Feeling cooped up Feeling of being cooped up are normal. You miss your old friend your cigarettes who used to go everywhere you used to go. Go for a short walk, go swimming, bike riding. Keep yourself physically and mentally busy. Top Cough, dry throat/mouth, nasal drip This is caused from your body getting rid of mucous which has blocked airways and restricted breathing. Drink plenty of fluids; drink cold water, fruit juice, tea; use cough drops, gum or hard candy. Top Craving for a cigarette Withdrawal from nicotine, a strongly addictive drug. It is most frequent the first 2 or 3 days. Occasionally, it can occur for months or for years. Wait out the urge; they only last a few minutes. Wait until it passes (in general 3 to 5 minutes). Get busy. Start another activity.Think of something else. Focus on your work.Drink some water, chew some gum or eat sugarless candy.Eat something (e.g., some fruit). Breathe deeply several times. Do a relaxing exercise. Brush your teeth. Tell yourself the symptoms will disappear in a few days. Top Depression & Despair Find a substitute reward to smoking. Deal with your emotions. Call your support buddy. Use positive self-talk. Don’t cut yourself down; build yourself up. Don’t allow a self-defeatist attitude (I’m no good, I can’t do this). This can lead to a decreased sense of control and a drop in self-esteem. Think of success, not failure! It’s normal to feel sad, angry, or confused in the first few smoke-free weeks. These feelings will pass but If the depression does not appear to be going away, take it seriously and consult your doctor. Top Dizziness Your body is getting extra oxygen like it hasn’t seen for a long time. Get fresh air, go for a walk, change positions slowly. It will last several days and will go away. Top Fatigue Nicotine is a stimulant. 2 to 4 weeks. Get extra sleep and more exercise; take naps; don’t push yourself. If you feel tired when you first wake up, do some moderate exercises and take a cool shower. Drink 6-8 glasses of water per day to speed up the healing process. Top Frustration Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Talk to your support buddy. Think of the positive reasons for quitting and the rewards you will be able to achieve. Take some time by yourself. Do a favorite hobby. Top Headaches Take a warm bath or shower. Try relaxation or meditation techniques. Do more physical activities. Cut down on coffee and cola drinks. Top Increase on Appetite Craving for a cigarette can be confused with hunger pangs or a simple craving for oral stimulation. For years, your mouth was stimulated every time a cigarette landed between your lips. This has now been removed. Up to several weeks What can I do? Drink water or low-calorie liquids. Be prepared with low-calorie and low-fat snacks (celery, pretzels, carrots, popcorn, melba toast); chew a toothpick, chew gum, munch on raw vegetables. Top Insomnia Nicotine affects brain wave function. This can influence sleep patterns and dreams about smoking are common. 1 week Take a hot, relaxing bath, avoid caffeine (coffee, tea, pop) after 6:00pm Try relaxing at bedtime with a glass of warm milk, deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Work on a hobby. Top Irritability, grouchy, tense The body is craving for nicotine. Tobacco smokers are in a chronic state of nervous stimulation. Many of the symptoms quitters experience are the result of the nervous system returning to normal. It normally last for 1-2 weeks. Deep breathe, take walks, exercise, use relaxation techniques, chew nicotine gum, cut down on coffee and pop. Top Lack of concentration The body needs time to adjust to not having constant stimulation from nicotine. A few weeks Change activities, get some fresh air, exercise, deep breathe, listen to music, watch TV, do more physical activity, cut down on coffee and cola, plan workload accordingly, avoid situations that may trigger your desire to smoke. Top Loneliness Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. Top Night Time awakenings Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. Top Restlessness Exercise. Work on a hobby. Catch up on your chores. Do some extra jobs at work. Top Tightness in the chest It is probably due to tension created by the body’s need for nicotine; may be caused by sore muscles from coughing. Part of the recovery process may be the lung’s attempt to remove mucus and tar. The normal mucus transport system will start to reactivate itself, which can initially cause coughing. It will last a few days. Deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Be patient; wait it out! Your body wants to return to normal. Top Weight gain Weight gain from quitting smoking is very normal for most people and you can expect to put on 5-10 pounds over the period of several months. Remember that this extra weight gain is a lot better than continuing to smoke! Top And the good news when you quit is that the withdrawal symptoms get less intense and do go away! Withdrawal symptom Duration Proportion of people affected Irritability/aggression Less than 4 weeks 50% Depression Less than 4 weeks 60% Restlessness Less than 4 weeks 60% Poor concentration Less than 2 weeks 60% Increased appetite Greater than 10 weeks 70% Light-headedness Less than 48 hours 10% Night-time awakenings Less than a week 25% Craving Greater than 2 weeks 70% The Truth About Nicotine Withdrawal: One of the keys to quitting smoking is acknowledging that smoking cigarettes is an addiction that can be managed and overcome. One of the main reasons people give up quitting is because they find the withdrawal symptoms so fierce and unexpected. Don’t worry these symptoms are actually good news, signs that your body is purging itself of all the harmful chemicals cigarettes left in your body. Most people do not experience all of the symptoms below: Dizziness Increased oxygen levels in blood and blood pressure lowering to normal Be careful, take precautions and don’t work to hard 1 – 5 days Coughing, nose running The body’s respiratory system begins to clean itself Drink lots of fluids 1 – 5 days Sore throat The clearing away of nicotine and tar and the
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Bren, this is *very* informative. Do you have the URL to the site this came from? I’d like to visit it. TIA, Lane, DOF+, f3as3, QB Read my Diary of a Quitter: http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love. – Mother Theresa — 2y 5m 1w 6d 12:38 smoke-free, 35,869 cigs not smoked, $7,173.80 saved, 4m 3d 13:05 life saved
: Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks : : Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting failure : rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can during : this period. : : Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last cigarette, : generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after two : weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. : : Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider the : following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating from a : disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical symptoms: : : a.. Tingling in the hands and feet : b.. Sweating : c.. Intestinal disorders (cramps, nausea) : d.. Headache : e.. Cold symptoms as the lungs begin to clear (sore throats, coughing, and : other signs of colds and respiratory problem) : Mental and Emotional Symptoms. Tension and craving build up during periods : of withdrawal, sometimes to a nearly intolerable point. One European study : found that the incidence of workplace accidents increases on No Smoking Day, : a day in which up to 2 million smokers either reduce the amount they smoke : or abstain altogether. : : Nearly every moderate to heavy smoker experiences more than one of the : following strong emotional and mental responses to withdrawal. : : a.. Feelings of being an infant: temper tantrums, intense needs, feelings : of dependency, a state of near paralysis. : b.. Insomnia : c.. Mental confusion : d.. Vagueness : e.. Irritability : f.. Anxiety : g.. Depression is common in the short and long term. In the short term it : may mimic the feelings of grief felt when a loved one is lost. As foolish as : it sounds, a smoker should plan on a period of actual mourning in order to : get through the early withdrawal depression. : Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: : : Anger & Mood Swings : Boredom : Constipation & Gas : Feeling Closed In : Cough, Dry Throat, Nasal Drip : Cravings For Cigarettes : Depression : Dizziness and Invertigo : Feeling tired all the time : Frustration : Headaches : Increase in Appetite : Insomnia : Irritability, Grouchiness : Lack Of Concentration : Loneliness : Night Time Awakenings : Restlessness : Tightness In The Chest : Weight gain : : : : Anger and Mood Swings : Anger is part of the quitting process. You don’t have to have a reason to : feel that way, you just do. Accept it, vent it safely. Deal with the : irritating situation by dealing with your feelings rather than suppressing : them. Say what’s on your mind without blowing your stack. Anger openly : expressed or kept inside creates tension which may create the need for a : cigarette. Reducing the tension will reduce your desire for a cigarette. : Discuss your anger with your buddy. Take a walk. Do deep breathing : exercises. : : Top : : : Boredom : Try new things. Keep your hands and mind busy (write a letter, do dishes, : cook, paint, do carpentry, knit, garden, sew). Run some errands, get caught : up on jobs you haven’t had time to do, or go see a movie. If you have to : stay in one place, have a book/crossword puzzles/deck of cards handy. : : Top : : : Constipation, gas, stomach pain : Constipation is caused by intestinal movement decreases for a brief : period. It will normally last for several weeks. : Drink plenty of liquids (6-8 glasses of water daily); add roughage to diet : (fruits, vegetables, whole grain cereals, bran); go for walks. : : : Top : : : Feeling cooped up : Feeling of being cooped up are normal. You miss your old friend your : cigarettes who used to go everywhere you used to go. Go for a short walk, go : swimming, bike riding. Keep yourself physically and mentally busy. : : Top : : : Cough, dry throat/mouth, nasal drip : This is caused from your body getting rid of mucous which has blocked : airways and restricted breathing. Drink plenty of fluids; drink cold water, : fruit juice, tea; use cough drops, gum or hard candy. : : Top : : : Craving for a cigarette : Withdrawal from nicotine, a strongly addictive drug. It is most frequent : the first 2 or 3 days. Occasionally, it can occur for months or for years. : Wait out the urge; they only last a few minutes. Wait until it passes (in : general 3 to 5 minutes). Get busy. Start another activity.Think of something : else. Focus on your work.Drink some water, chew some gum or eat sugarless : candy.Eat something (e.g., some fruit). Breathe deeply several times. Do a : relaxing exercise. Brush your teeth. Tell yourself the symptoms will : disappear in a few days. : : : : : Top : : : Depression & Despair : Find a substitute reward to smoking. Deal with your emotions. Call your : support buddy. Use positive self-talk. Don’t cut yourself down; build : yourself up. Don’t allow a self-defeatist attitude (I’m no good, I can’t do : this). This can lead to a decreased sense of control and a drop in : self-esteem. Think of success, not failure! It’s normal to feel sad, angry, : or confused in the first few smoke-free weeks. These feelings will pass but : If the depression does not appear to be going away, take it seriously and : consult your doctor. : : Top : : : Dizziness : Your body is getting extra oxygen like it hasn’t seen for a long time. Get : fresh air, go for a walk, change positions slowly. It will last several days : and will go away. : : Top : : : Fatigue : Nicotine is a stimulant. 2 to 4 weeks. Get extra sleep and more exercise; : take naps; don’t push yourself. If you feel tired when you first wake up, do : some moderate exercises and take a cool shower. Drink 6-8 glasses of water : per day to speed up the healing process. : : : Top : : : Frustration : Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Talk to your support buddy. : Think of the positive reasons for quitting and the rewards you will be able : to achieve. Take some time by yourself. Do a favorite hobby. : : Top : : : Headaches : Take a warm bath or shower. Try relaxation or meditation techniques. Do : more physical activities. Cut down on coffee and cola drinks. : : Top : : : Increase on Appetite : Craving for a cigarette can be confused with hunger pangs or a simple : craving for oral stimulation. For years, your mouth was stimulated every : time a cigarette landed between your lips. This has now been removed. Up to : several weeks What can I do? : Drink water or low-calorie liquids. Be prepared with low-calorie and : low-fat snacks (celery, pretzels, carrots, popcorn, melba toast); chew a : toothpick, chew gum, munch on raw vegetables. : : Top : : : Insomnia : Nicotine affects brain wave function. This can influence sleep patterns : and dreams about smoking are common. 1 week Take a hot, relaxing bath, : avoid caffeine (coffee, tea, pop) after 6:00pm Try relaxing at bedtime with : a glass of warm milk, deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Work on a : hobby. : : Top : : : Irritability, grouchy, tense : The body is craving for nicotine. Tobacco smokers are in a chronic state : of nervous stimulation. Many of the symptoms quitters experience are the : result of the nervous system returning to normal. It normally last for 1-2 : weeks. Deep breathe, take walks, exercise, use relaxation techniques, chew : nicotine gum, cut down on coffee and pop. : : Top : : : Lack of concentration : The body needs time to adjust to not having constant stimulation from : nicotine. A few weeks Change activities, get some fresh air, exercise, deep : breathe, listen to music, watch TV, do more physical activity, cut down on : coffee and cola, plan workload accordingly, avoid situations that may : trigger your desire to smoke. : : Top : : : Loneliness : Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. : Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. : : Top : : : Night Time awakenings : Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. : Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. : : Top : : : Restlessness : Exercise. Work on a hobby. Catch up on your chores. Do some extra jobs at : work. : : Top : : : Tightness in the chest : It is probably due to tension created by the body’s need for nicotine; may : be caused by sore muscles from coughing. Part of the recovery process may be : the lung’s attempt to remove mucus and tar. The normal mucus transport : system will start to reactivate itself, which can initially cause coughing. : It will last a few days. Deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Be : patient; wait it out! Your body wants to return to normal. : : Top : : : Weight gain : Weight gain from quitting smoking is very normal for most people and you : can expect to put on 5-10 pounds over the period of several months. Remember : that this extra weight gain is a lot better than continuing to smoke! : : Top : : And the good news when you quit is that the withdrawal symptoms : get less intense and do go away! : : Withdrawal symptom Duration Proportion of people affected : Irritability/aggression Less than 4 weeks 50% : Depression Less than 4 weeks 60% : Restlessness Less than 4 weeks 60% : Poor concentration Less than 2 weeks 60% : Increased appetite Greater than 10 weeks 70% : Light-headedness Less
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bren, > this is *very* informative. Do you have the URL to the site this came from? > I’d like to visit it. > TIA, > Lane, DOF+, f3as3, QB > Read my Diary of a Quitter: > http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html > We cannot all do great things, > but we can do small things with great love. > – Mother Theresa > — > 2y 5m 1w 6d 12:38 smoke-free, 35,869 cigs not smoked, $7,173.80 saved, 4m > 3d 13:05 life saved > : Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks > : > : Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting > failure > : rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can > during > : this period. > : > : Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last cigarette, > : generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after two > : weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. > : > : Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider the > : following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating from a > : disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical symptoms: > : > : a.. Tingling in the hands and feet > : b.. Sweating > : c.. Intestinal disorders (cramps, nausea) > : d.. Headache > : e.. Cold symptoms as the lungs begin to clear (sore throats, coughing, > and > : other signs of colds and respiratory problem) > : Mental and Emotional Symptoms. Tension and craving build up during periods > : of withdrawal, sometimes to a nearly intolerable point. One European study > : found that the incidence of workplace accidents increases on No Smoking > Day, > : a day in which up to 2 million smokers either reduce the amount they smoke > : or abstain altogether. > : > : Nearly every moderate to heavy smoker experiences more than one of the > : following strong emotional and mental responses to withdrawal. > : > : a.. Feelings of being an infant: temper tantrums, intense needs, > feelings > : of dependency, a state of near paralysis. > : b.. Insomnia > : c.. Mental confusion > : d.. Vagueness > : e.. Irritability > : f.. Anxiety > : g.. Depression is common in the short and long term. In the short term > it > : may mimic the feelings of grief felt when a loved one is lost. As foolish > as > : it sounds, a smoker should plan on a period of actual mourning in order to > : get through the early withdrawal depression. > : Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: > : > : Anger & Mood Swings > : Boredom > : Constipation & Gas > : Feeling Closed In > : Cough, Dry Throat, Nasal Drip > : Cravings For Cigarettes > : Depression > : Dizziness and Invertigo > : Feeling tired all the time > : Frustration > : Headaches > : Increase in Appetite > : Insomnia > : Irritability, Grouchiness > : Lack Of Concentration > : Loneliness > : Night Time Awakenings > : Restlessness > : Tightness In The Chest > : Weight gain > : > : > : > : Anger and Mood Swings > : Anger is part of the quitting process. You don’t have to have a reason to > : feel that way, you just do. Accept it, vent it safely. Deal with the > : irritating situation by dealing with your feelings rather than suppressing > : them. Say what’s on your mind without blowing your stack. Anger openly > : expressed or kept inside creates tension which may create the need for a > : cigarette. Reducing the tension will reduce your desire for a cigarette. > : Discuss your anger with your buddy. Take a walk. Do deep breathing > : exercises. > : > : Top > : > : > : Boredom > : Try new things. Keep your hands and mind busy (write a letter, do dishes, > : cook, paint, do carpentry, knit, garden, sew). Run some errands, get > caught > : up on jobs you haven’t had time to do, or go see a movie. If you have to > : stay in one place, have a book/crossword puzzles/deck of cards handy. > : > : Top > : > : > : Constipation, gas, stomach pain > : Constipation is caused by intestinal movement decreases for a brief > : period. It will normally last for several weeks. > : Drink plenty of liquids (6-8 glasses of water daily); add roughage to > diet > : (fruits, vegetables, whole grain cereals, bran); go for walks. > : > : > : Top > : > : > : Feeling cooped up > : Feeling of being cooped up are normal. You miss your old friend your > : cigarettes who used to go everywhere you used to go. Go for a short walk, > go > : swimming, bike riding. Keep yourself physically and mentally busy. > : > : Top > : > : > : Cough, dry throat/mouth, nasal drip > : This is caused from your body getting rid of mucous which has blocked > : airways and restricted breathing. Drink plenty of fluids; drink cold > water, > : fruit juice, tea; use cough drops, gum or hard candy. > : > : Top > : > : > : Craving for a cigarette > : Withdrawal from nicotine, a strongly addictive drug. It is most frequent > : the first 2 or 3 days. Occasionally, it can occur for months or for years. > : Wait out the urge; they only last a few minutes. Wait until it passes (in > : general 3 to 5 minutes). Get busy. Start another activity.Think of > something > : else. Focus on your work.Drink some water, chew some gum or eat sugarless > : candy.Eat something (e.g., some fruit). Breathe deeply several times. Do a > : relaxing exercise. Brush your teeth. Tell yourself the symptoms will > : disappear in a few days. > : > : > : > : > : Top > : > : > : Depression & Despair > : Find a substitute reward to smoking. Deal with your emotions. Call your > : support buddy. Use positive self-talk. Don’t cut yourself down; build > : yourself up. Don’t allow a self-defeatist attitude (I’m no good, I can’t > do > : this). This can lead to a decreased sense of control and a drop in > : self-esteem. Think of success, not failure! It’s normal to feel sad, > angry, > : or confused in the first few smoke-free weeks. These feelings will pass > but > : If the depression does not appear to be going away, take it seriously and > : consult your doctor. > : > : Top > : > : > : Dizziness > : Your body is getting extra oxygen like it hasn’t seen for a long time. > Get > : fresh air, go for a walk, change positions slowly. It will last several > days > : and will go away. > : > : Top > : > : > : Fatigue > : Nicotine is a stimulant. 2 to 4 weeks. Get extra sleep and more > exercise; > : take naps; don’t push yourself. If you feel tired when you first wake up, > do > : some moderate exercises and take a cool shower. Drink 6-8 glasses of water > : per day to speed up the healing process. > : > : > : Top > : > : > : Frustration > : Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Talk to your support buddy. > : Think of the positive reasons for quitting and the rewards you will be > able > : to achieve. Take some time by yourself. Do a favorite hobby. > : > : Top > : > : > : Headaches > : Take a warm bath or shower. Try relaxation or meditation techniques. Do > : more physical activities. Cut down on coffee and cola drinks. > : > : Top > : > : > : Increase on Appetite > : Craving for a cigarette can be confused with hunger pangs or a simple > : craving for oral stimulation. For years, your mouth was stimulated every > : time a cigarette landed between your lips. This has now been removed. Up > to > : several weeks What can I do? > : Drink water or low-calorie liquids. Be prepared with low-calorie and > : low-fat snacks (celery, pretzels, carrots, popcorn, melba toast); chew a > : toothpick, chew gum, munch on raw vegetables. > : > : Top > : > : > : Insomnia > : Nicotine affects brain wave function. This can influence sleep patterns > : and dreams about smoking are common. 1 week Take a hot, relaxing bath, > : avoid caffeine (coffee, tea, pop) after 6:00pm Try relaxing at bedtime > with > : a glass of warm milk, deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Work on a > : hobby. > : > : Top > : > : > : Irritability, grouchy, tense > : The body is craving for nicotine. Tobacco smokers are in a chronic state > : of nervous stimulation. Many of the symptoms quitters experience are the > : result of the nervous system returning to normal. It normally last for 1-2 > : weeks. Deep breathe, take walks, exercise, use relaxation techniques, chew > : nicotine gum, cut down on coffee and pop. > : > : Top > : > : > : Lack of concentration > : The body needs time to adjust to not having constant stimulation from > : nicotine. A few weeks Change activities, get some fresh air, exercise, > deep > : breathe, listen to music, watch TV, do more physical activity, cut down on > : coffee and cola, plan workload accordingly, avoid situations that may > : trigger your desire to smoke. > : > : Top > : > : > : Loneliness > : Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real > friend. > : Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. > : > : Top > : > : > : Night Time awakenings > : Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real > friend. > : Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. > : > : Top > : > : > : Restlessness > : Exercise. Work on a hobby. Catch up on your chores. Do some extra jobs > at > : work. > : > : Top > : > : > : Tightness in the chest > : It is probably due to tension created by the body’s need for nicotine; > may > : be caused by sore muscles from coughing. Part of the recovery process may > be > : the lung’s attempt to remove mucus and tar. The normal mucus transport > : system will start to reactivate itself, which can initially cause > coughing. > : It will last a few days. Deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Be > : patient; wait it out! Your body wants to
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I guess I got wind bad too, although its hard to tell with me, I fart like a trooper whatever the circumstances. Cheers Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I >> hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. >oh god you shoulda been in my office yesterday. > Hi, Joon. Yes, I had that too, really badly. After three weeks it’s > mostly gone away, though. > —
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Bren quoted: > Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: <snipped> > Dizziness and Invertigo
Uh, wouldn’t "invertigo" be *not* feeling dizzy? — Bob Christofferson Extremely old fogey, Hitchcock-movie fan
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Me too, it drives me crazy and the kids think it’s hilarious. I wonder if it will ever go away… and beans! OMG! They NEVER bothered me before. With hope and heart, Kathleen "Dogs feel very strongly that they should always go with you in the car, in case the need should arise for them to bark violently at nothing right in your ear." — Dave Barry : I guess I got wind bad too, although its hard to tell with me, I fart : like a trooper whatever the circumstances. : Cheers : Sue : > >> So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I : > >> hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. : > >oh god you shoulda been in my office yesterday. : > Hi, Joon. Yes, I had that too, really badly. After three weeks it’s : > mostly gone away, though.
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> Bren quoted: > Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: <snipped> > Dizziness and Invertigo > Uh, wouldn’t "invertigo" be *not* feeling dizzy?
No, I think it’s feeling dizzy while you are hanging upside down. Bats get it a lot. hugs, elle
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Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting failure rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can during this period. Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last cigarette, generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after two weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider the following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating from disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical symptoms: a.. Tingling in the hands and feet Has anyone experienced the ‘tingling’ in the hands or feet ? Starting on the fourth day of my quit, both my hands felt numb, and it lasted for three days. Now it occurs sporadically. I originally thought it was a relapse of carpal tunnel syndrome I had experienced five years ago, but now I’m not so sure, especially since it affected both hands at the same time, and happened so suddenly. AS3 is a life-saver. Your posts keep me from backsliding. Thanks! Frank B. 1wk 6days
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>> So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I > hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. >oh god you shoulda been in my office yesterday.
Hi, Joon. Yes, I had that too, really badly. After three weeks it’s mostly gone away, though. —
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Joon, hadn’t seen you around before but you are just TOO FUNNY!!! thanks for all those giggles! How many chips do i owe ya? poppy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I > hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. > oh god you shoulda been in my office yesterday. > on second thought, maybe you shoudn’t. it was baaaaaaaad. and loud. > jeez. the pressure was so bad it got to the point where I didn’t care > anymore if someone heard me ripping a giant fart. > today I was fine. go figure. must’ve been something I ate because I > sure can’t imagine farting being a withdrawal symptom. > — > you know, if Jesus comes back to Earth, I bet the last > thing he’ll want to see again is another cross.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> how about the url itself? I just can’t read all of this and would > like to. > Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks > Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting > failure > rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can > during > this period. > Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last > cigarette, > generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after > two > weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. > Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider > the > following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating > from a > disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical > symptoms: > a.. Tingling in the hands and feet > b.. Sweating > c.. Intestinal disorders (cramps, nausea) > d.. Headache > e.. Cold symptoms as the lungs begin to clear (sore throats, > coughing, and > other signs of colds and respiratory problem) > Mental and Emotional Symptoms. Tension and craving build up during > periods > of withdrawal, sometimes to a nearly intolerable point. One European > study > found that the incidence of workplace accidents increases on No > Smoking Day, > a day in which up to 2 million smokers either reduce the amount they > smoke > or abstain altogether. > Nearly every moderate to heavy smoker experiences more than one of the > following strong emotional and mental responses to withdrawal. > a.. Feelings of being an infant: temper tantrums, intense needs, > feelings > of dependency, a state of near paralysis. > b.. Insomnia > c.. Mental confusion > d.. Vagueness > e.. Irritability > f.. Anxiety > g.. Depression is common in the short and long term. In the short > term it > may mimic the feelings of grief felt when a loved one is lost. As > foolish as > it sounds, a smoker should plan on a period of actual mourning in > order to > get through the early withdrawal depression. > Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: > Anger & Mood Swings > Boredom > Constipation & Gas > Feeling Closed In > Cough, Dry Throat, Nasal Drip > Cravings For Cigarettes > Depression > Dizziness and Invertigo > Feeling tired all the time > Frustration > Headaches > Increase in Appetite > Insomnia > Irritability, Grouchiness > Lack Of Concentration > Loneliness > Night Time Awakenings > Restlessness > Tightness In The Chest > Weight gain > Anger and Mood Swings > Anger is part of the quitting process. You don’t have to have a reason > to > feel that way, you just do. Accept it, vent it safely. Deal with the > irritating situation by dealing with your feelings rather than > suppressing > them. Say what’s on your mind without blowing your stack. Anger openly > expressed or kept inside creates tension which may create the need for > a > cigarette. Reducing the tension will reduce your desire for a > cigarette. > Discuss your anger with your buddy. Take a walk. Do deep breathing > exercises. > Top > Boredom > Try new things. Keep your hands and mind busy (write a letter, do > dishes, > cook, paint, do carpentry, knit, garden, sew). Run some errands, get > caught > up on jobs you haven’t had time to do, or go see a movie. If you have > to > stay in one place, have a book/crossword puzzles/deck of cards handy. > Top > Constipation, gas, stomach pain > Constipation is caused by intestinal movement decreases for a brief > period. It will normally last for several weeks. > Drink plenty of liquids (6-8 glasses of water daily); add roughage > to diet > (fruits, vegetables, whole grain cereals, bran); go for walks. > Top > Feeling cooped up > Feeling of being cooped up are normal. You miss your old friend your > cigarettes who used to go everywhere you used to go. Go for a short > walk, go > swimming, bike riding. Keep yourself physically and mentally busy. > Top > Cough, dry throat/mouth, nasal drip > This is caused from your body getting rid of mucous which has > blocked > airways and restricted breathing. Drink plenty of fluids; drink cold > water, > fruit juice, tea; use cough drops, gum or hard candy. > Top > Craving for a cigarette > Withdrawal from nicotine, a strongly addictive drug. It is most > frequent > the first 2 or 3 days. Occasionally, it can occur for months or for > years. > Wait out the urge; they only last a few minutes. Wait until it passes > (in > general 3 to 5 minutes). Get busy. Start another activity.Think of > something > else. Focus on your work.Drink some water, chew some gum or eat > sugarless > candy.Eat something (e.g., some fruit). Breathe deeply several times. > Do a > relaxing exercise. Brush your teeth. Tell yourself the symptoms will > disappear in a few days. > Top > Depression & Despair > Find a substitute reward to smoking. Deal with your emotions. Call > your > support buddy. Use positive self-talk. Don’t cut yourself down; build > yourself up. Don’t allow a self-defeatist attitude (I’m no good, I > can’t do > this). This can lead to a decreased sense of control and a drop in > self-esteem. Think of success, not failure! It’s normal to feel sad, > angry, > or confused in the first few smoke-free weeks. These feelings will > pass but > If the depression does not appear to be going away, take it seriously > and > consult your doctor. > Top > Dizziness > Your body is getting extra oxygen like it hasn’t seen for a long > time. Get > fresh air, go for a walk, change positions slowly. It will last > several days > and will go away. > Top > Fatigue > Nicotine is a stimulant. 2 to 4 weeks. Get extra sleep and more > exercise; > take naps; don’t push yourself. If you feel tired when you first wake > up, do > some moderate exercises and take a cool shower. Drink 6-8 glasses of > water > per day to speed up the healing process. > Top > Frustration > Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Talk to your support > buddy. > Think of the positive reasons for quitting and the rewards you will be > able > to achieve. Take some time by yourself. Do a favorite hobby. > Top > Headaches > Take a warm bath or shower. Try relaxation or meditation techniques. > Do > more physical activities. Cut down on coffee and cola drinks. > Top > Increase on Appetite > Craving for a cigarette can be confused with hunger pangs or a > simple > craving for oral stimulation. For years, your mouth was stimulated > every > time a cigarette landed between your lips. This has now been removed. > Up to > several weeks What can I do? > Drink water or low-calorie liquids. Be prepared with low-calorie and > low-fat snacks (celery, pretzels, carrots, popcorn, melba toast); chew > a > toothpick, chew gum, munch on raw vegetables. > Top > Insomnia > Nicotine affects brain wave function. This can influence sleep > patterns > and dreams about smoking are common. 1 week Take a hot, relaxing > bath, > avoid caffeine (coffee, tea, pop) after 6:00pm Try relaxing at bedtime > with > a glass of warm milk, deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Work > on a > hobby. > Top > Irritability, grouchy, tense > The body is craving for nicotine. Tobacco smokers are in a chronic > state > of nervous stimulation. Many of the symptoms quitters experience are > the > result of the nervous system returning to normal. It normally last for > 1-2 > weeks. Deep breathe, take walks, exercise, use relaxation techniques, > chew > nicotine gum, cut down on coffee and pop. > Top > Lack of concentration > The body needs time to adjust to not having constant stimulation > from > nicotine. A few weeks Change activities, get some fresh air, exercise, > deep > breathe, listen to music, watch TV, do more physical activity, cut > down on > coffee and cola, plan workload accordingly, avoid situations that may > trigger your desire to smoke. > Top > Loneliness > Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real > friend. > Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. > Top > Night Time awakenings > Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real > friend. > Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. > Top > Restlessness > Exercise. Work on a hobby. Catch up on your chores. Do some extra > jobs at > work. > Top > Tightness in the chest > It is probably due to tension created by the body’s need for > nicotine; may > be caused by sore muscles from coughing. Part of the recovery process > may be > the lung’s attempt to remove mucus and tar. The normal mucus transport > system will start to reactivate itself, which can initially cause > coughing. > It will last a few days. Deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Be > patient; wait it out! Your body wants to return to normal. > Top > Weight gain > Weight gain from quitting smoking is very normal for most people and > you > can expect to put on 5-10 pounds over the period of several months. > Remember > that this extra weight gain is a lot better than continuing to smoke! > Top > And the good news when you quit is that the withdrawal symptoms > get less intense and do go away! > Withdrawal symptom Duration Proportion of people affected > Irritability/aggression Less than 4 weeks 50% > Depression Less than 4 weeks 60% > Restlessness Less than 4 weeks 60% > Poor concentration Less than 2 weeks 60% > Increased appetite Greater than 10 weeks 70% > Light-headedness Less than 48 hours 10% > Night-time awakenings
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how about the url itself? I just can’t read all of this and would like to.
Withdrawal in the First Two Weeks Because the first two weeks are so critical in determining quitting failure rates, smokers should not be shy about seeking all the help they can during this period. Withdrawal symptoms begin as soon as four hours after the last cigarette, generally peak in intensity at three to five days, and disappear after two weeks. They include both physical and mental symptoms. Physical Symptoms. During the quitting process people should consider the following physical symptoms of withdrawal as they were recuperating from a disease and treat them accordingly as they would any physical symptoms: a.. Tingling in the hands and feet b.. Sweating c.. Intestinal disorders (cramps, nausea) d.. Headache e.. Cold symptoms as the lungs begin to clear (sore throats, coughing, and other signs of colds and respiratory problem) Mental and Emotional Symptoms. Tension and craving build up during periods of withdrawal, sometimes to a nearly intolerable point. One European study found that the incidence of workplace accidents increases on No Smoking Day, a day in which up to 2 million smokers either reduce the amount they smoke or abstain altogether. Nearly every moderate to heavy smoker experiences more than one of the following strong emotional and mental responses to withdrawal. a.. Feelings of being an infant: temper tantrums, intense needs, feelings of dependency, a state of near paralysis. b.. Insomnia c.. Mental confusion d.. Vagueness e.. Irritability f.. Anxiety g.. Depression is common in the short and long term. In the short term it may mimic the feelings of grief felt when a loved one is lost. As foolish as it sounds, a smoker should plan on a period of actual mourning in order to get through the early withdrawal depression. Some Common Withdrawal Symptoms: Anger & Mood Swings Boredom Constipation & Gas Feeling Closed In Cough, Dry Throat, Nasal Drip Cravings For Cigarettes Depression Dizziness and Invertigo Feeling tired all the time Frustration Headaches Increase in Appetite Insomnia Irritability, Grouchiness Lack Of Concentration Loneliness Night Time Awakenings Restlessness Tightness In The Chest Weight gain Anger and Mood Swings Anger is part of the quitting process. You don’t have to have a reason to feel that way, you just do. Accept it, vent it safely. Deal with the irritating situation by dealing with your feelings rather than suppressing them. Say what’s on your mind without blowing your stack. Anger openly expressed or kept inside creates tension which may create the need for a cigarette. Reducing the tension will reduce your desire for a cigarette. Discuss your anger with your buddy. Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Top Boredom Try new things. Keep your hands and mind busy (write a letter, do dishes, cook, paint, do carpentry, knit, garden, sew). Run some errands, get caught up on jobs you haven’t had time to do, or go see a movie. If you have to stay in one place, have a book/crossword puzzles/deck of cards handy. Top Constipation, gas, stomach pain Constipation is caused by intestinal movement decreases for a brief period. It will normally last for several weeks. Drink plenty of liquids (6-8 glasses of water daily); add roughage to diet (fruits, vegetables, whole grain cereals, bran); go for walks. Top Feeling cooped up Feeling of being cooped up are normal. You miss your old friend your cigarettes who used to go everywhere you used to go. Go for a short walk, go swimming, bike riding. Keep yourself physically and mentally busy. Top Cough, dry throat/mouth, nasal drip This is caused from your body getting rid of mucous which has blocked airways and restricted breathing. Drink plenty of fluids; drink cold water, fruit juice, tea; use cough drops, gum or hard candy. Top Craving for a cigarette Withdrawal from nicotine, a strongly addictive drug. It is most frequent the first 2 or 3 days. Occasionally, it can occur for months or for years. Wait out the urge; they only last a few minutes. Wait until it passes (in general 3 to 5 minutes). Get busy. Start another activity.Think of something else. Focus on your work.Drink some water, chew some gum or eat sugarless candy.Eat something (e.g., some fruit). Breathe deeply several times. Do a relaxing exercise. Brush your teeth. Tell yourself the symptoms will disappear in a few days. Top Depression & Despair Find a substitute reward to smoking. Deal with your emotions. Call your support buddy. Use positive self-talk. Don’t cut yourself down; build yourself up. Don’t allow a self-defeatist attitude (I’m no good, I can’t do this). This can lead to a decreased sense of control and a drop in self-esteem. Think of success, not failure! It’s normal to feel sad, angry, or confused in the first few smoke-free weeks. These feelings will pass but If the depression does not appear to be going away, take it seriously and consult your doctor. Top Dizziness Your body is getting extra oxygen like it hasn’t seen for a long time. Get fresh air, go for a walk, change positions slowly. It will last several days and will go away. Top Fatigue Nicotine is a stimulant. 2 to 4 weeks. Get extra sleep and more exercise; take naps; don’t push yourself. If you feel tired when you first wake up, do some moderate exercises and take a cool shower. Drink 6-8 glasses of water per day to speed up the healing process. Top Frustration Take a walk. Do deep breathing exercises. Talk to your support buddy. Think of the positive reasons for quitting and the rewards you will be able to achieve. Take some time by yourself. Do a favorite hobby. Top Headaches Take a warm bath or shower. Try relaxation or meditation techniques. Do more physical activities. Cut down on coffee and cola drinks. Top Increase on Appetite Craving for a cigarette can be confused with hunger pangs or a simple craving for oral stimulation. For years, your mouth was stimulated every time a cigarette landed between your lips. This has now been removed. Up to several weeks What can I do? Drink water or low-calorie liquids. Be prepared with low-calorie and low-fat snacks (celery, pretzels, carrots, popcorn, melba toast); chew a toothpick, chew gum, munch on raw vegetables. Top Insomnia Nicotine affects brain wave function. This can influence sleep patterns and dreams about smoking are common. 1 week Take a hot, relaxing bath, avoid caffeine (coffee, tea, pop) after 6:00pm Try relaxing at bedtime with a glass of warm milk, deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Work on a hobby. Top Irritability, grouchy, tense The body is craving for nicotine. Tobacco smokers are in a chronic state of nervous stimulation. Many of the symptoms quitters experience are the result of the nervous system returning to normal. It normally last for 1-2 weeks. Deep breathe, take walks, exercise, use relaxation techniques, chew nicotine gum, cut down on coffee and pop. Top Lack of concentration The body needs time to adjust to not having constant stimulation from nicotine. A few weeks Change activities, get some fresh air, exercise, deep breathe, listen to music, watch TV, do more physical activity, cut down on coffee and cola, plan workload accordingly, avoid situations that may trigger your desire to smoke. Top Loneliness Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. Top Night Time awakenings Cigarettes are seen by many people as a close friend. Call a real friend. Go for a walk or a drive. Sing, pray. Top Restlessness Exercise. Work on a hobby. Catch up on your chores. Do some extra jobs at work. Top Tightness in the chest It is probably due to tension created by the body’s need for nicotine; may be caused by sore muscles from coughing. Part of the recovery process may be the lung’s attempt to remove mucus and tar. The normal mucus transport system will start to reactivate itself, which can initially cause coughing. It will last a few days. Deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Be patient; wait it out! Your body wants to return to normal. Top Weight gain Weight gain from quitting smoking is very normal for most people and you can expect to put on 5-10 pounds over the period of several months. Remember that this extra weight gain is a lot better than continuing to smoke! Top And the good news when you quit is that the withdrawal symptoms get less intense and do go away! Withdrawal symptom Duration Proportion of people affected Irritability/aggression Less than 4 weeks 50% Depression Less than 4 weeks 60% Restlessness Less than 4 weeks 60% Poor concentration Less than 2 weeks 60% Increased appetite Greater than 10 weeks 70% Light-headedness Less than 48 hours 10% Night-time awakenings Less than a week 25% Craving Greater than 2 weeks 70% The Truth About Nicotine Withdrawal: One of the keys to quitting smoking is acknowledging that smoking cigarettes is an addiction that can be managed and overcome. One of the main reasons people give up quitting is because they find the withdrawal symptoms so fierce and unexpected. Don’t worry these symptoms are actually good news, signs that your body is purging itself of all the harmful chemicals cigarettes left in your body. Most people do not experience all of the symptoms below: Dizziness Increased oxygen levels in blood and blood pressure lowering to normal Be careful, take precautions and don’t work to hard 1 – 5 days
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yeah the insomnia is just an excuse…HA! Trust me Ozmee, all of those withdrawal symptoms are VERY true. You may not experience all of them, but there are alot of people that experience some of them. When tar and nicotine gook up every single neurotransmitter and every single cell of your body for how many years…?…you gotta expect some nasty shit to come down the pike when you quit. Bren (who experienced quit related depression, quit related colitis, insomnia, etc….) Two years, five months, three weeks, six days, 2 hours, 35 minutes and 54 seconds. 18202 airstealers not smoked, saving $2,439.20. Life saved: 9 weeks, 4 hours, 50 minutes.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Right in the middle of reading this, as usual OE decided to put me > back at the stupid top! That happens a lot and really pisses me off. > It happens when the program goes and checks the mail I think, which I > have set for every 3 minutes. > So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I > hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. Maybe maybe > but I don’t see how nicotine can cause those kinds of problems. It > sounds to me like every thing that can be blamed on quitting smoking > was put on that list and then some. If something bad happens, blame > it on quitting. I’m sorry, but that is BS. I don’t believe it, I do > believe it’s just an excuse. > EXCUSE, that which a person uses to keep from being held accountable. > I am accountable. If I flop I have only myself to blame. If I win, I > have only myself to pat on the back. All of those symptoms happen > whether you smoke or don’t smoke. > Sorry I am being in a bitchy mood right now, I am really craving a cig > in the worst way. I am bored to tears and considering a bath and > going to bed early. Of course I don’t have my sleeping medicine yet > so that means I’ll lie there for a couple of hours, sigh. > Oh poo. > Ozmee has Quit for 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes, 24 seconds, > not smoking 523 cigarettes, saving $ 57.37, and saving 1d 19h 35m > of life.
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>Thanks, Bren! I have a link to their main webpage on my Novenders Site, >but I hadn’t ever ventured into the withdrawal phase of the site. Very >good info! 
You have to wade thro’ lots of advertising to find it, but their is loads of relevant info on that site it seems
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Right in the middle of reading this, as usual OE decided to put me back at the stupid top! That happens a lot and really pisses me off. It happens when the program goes and checks the mail I think, which I have set for every 3 minutes. So okay, gas is bad, we were blaming it on the Wow chips but today I hadn’t had any of those for 3 days and still had bad gas. Maybe maybe but I don’t see how nicotine can cause those kinds of problems. It sounds to me like every thing that can be blamed on quitting smoking was put on that list and then some. If something bad happens, blame it on quitting. I’m sorry, but that is BS. I don’t believe it, I do believe it’s just an excuse. EXCUSE, that which a person uses to keep from being held accountable. I am accountable. If I flop I have only myself to blame. If I win, I have only myself to pat on the back. All of those symptoms happen whether you smoke or don’t smoke. Sorry I am being in a bitchy mood right now, I am really craving a cig in the worst way. I am bored to tears and considering a bath and going to bed early. Of course I don’t have my sleeping medicine yet so that means I’ll lie there for a couple of hours, sigh. Oh poo. Ozmee has Quit for 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes, 24 seconds, not smoking 523 cigarettes, saving $ 57.37, and saving 1d 19h 35m of life.
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> http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/withdrawal1.htm
Thanks, Bren! I have a link to their main webpage on my Novenders Site, but I hadn’t ever ventured into the withdrawal phase of the site. Very good info! *hugs* BB (who also has a link to Lane’s site posted there;^) > Bren, > this is *very* informative. Do you have the URL to the site this came > from? > I’d like to visit it. > TIA, > Lane, DOF+, f3as3, QB
– BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! %% (—-) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ ~f3as3~ Quit since 11/01/2001 http://binniebee.com http://fortyperks.com
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